Still crazy after all these years. . .

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:52:51 -0600
From: “Paul Nanson”
Subject: Still crazy after all these years. . .

Hmmm. . . I wonder what “sooper sekrit handshake required lists” the Webbmeister has been reading:

Grace & peace,


JBJ on mp3???

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:41:55 -0600
Subject: JBJ on mp3???

Jim or Ralph???

A year or two ago someone brought up the notion of moving Jim’s taped material to mp3. Did that ever get off the ground? Seems like if there was an easy way to do it (beats me), it seems now would be the time — with so many folks buying up mp3 players. Anybody?


Tithing & Giving

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:50:50 -0700
From: “John Barach”
Subject: Tithing & Giving

BHers —

A couple of (repeat) questions:
  1. Where are you at on the issue of tithing? Jim, are you still happy with the line of argument you present in The Law of the Covenant?
  2. How would you recommend teaching a congregation about giving? How do you address situations where people just don’t seem to be giving much? How about situations where you think giving may be dropping because people are voting with their wallets, engaging in a form of “tithe protest” against the direction the session is heading?



Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:34:46 -0700
From: “John Barach”
Subject: Boanerges

BHers —

What do you guys make of the name “Boanerges” given to James (Jacob) and John? Some commentaries say that Jesus named these guys “Sons of Thunder” because they were loud and obnoxious guys. Just look at how they wanted to call down fire from heaven later on.

But it seems to me (and I’ve discovered that Van Bruggen agrees) that we have to treat the naming of James and John the same way we treat the naming of Simon. Simon’s new name “Peter” didn’t reflect something in his own character by nature, let alone something bad. Rather, that new name indicated who he was as Jesus’ disciple and who Jesus would make him. Something similar has to be said for the Sons of Thunder, too.

But what is the meaning of “Sons of Thunder”? I suspect that Van Bruggen is right when he says that the term indicates that their voice is going to echo the voice of God, whose voice is often linked with thunder (e.g., when He speaks to Jesus, the people think it’s thunder).

As a side-note, it is interesting to see (as Farrer, Horne, and Wright point out) that out of the twelve, Jesus chooses “three mighty men,” distinguished by their new names, which is another Davidic echo.


Gaffin at WTS Dallas

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:43:18 -0600
From: Douglas Jordan
Subject: Gaffin at WTS Dallas

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:32:17 -0600, “James B. Jordan” wrote:
On this matter of language and communication, try listening to Wright and Gaffin at the AAPC conference. Wright spoke in English. Gaffin spoke in WCF. Frankly, listening to Gaffin was bizarre.

If any DFW-dwellers are interested in hearing more from Gaffin:


Join us for a lecture by Dr. Richard B. Gaffin, Jr., Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology, Westminster Theological Seminary, on the doctrine of Justification, followed by a Q & A session. Earlier this month at the Auburn Avenue Pastors Conference, Dr. Gaffin spoke on Pauline theology along with Dr. N.T. Wright whose writings have provoked much discussion within Reformed and Presbyterian circles. Dr. Gaffin’s upcoming lecture offers an opportunity for focused attention on one of the central doctrines under discussion. For information on Dr. Gaffin, please see Please reply to this email if you would like to attend.

“Reply to this email” means send mail to Steve Vanderhill to let him know you’re coming. It’s more of a request than a requirement, though — you’d be fine if you just showed up. It may be interesting to see what Gaffin does (or doesn’t) say now that he’s had time to ponder the AAPC conference. . . .


Dead or Alive

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 8:06:38 -0600
From: pduggan
Subject: Dead or Alive

The will of the reprobate are always dead.

The will of the elect become alive.

Is there a common operation of the Spirit towards those in the church which makes them alive while still remaining dead?